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« on: October 12, 2004, 04:04:27 PM » |
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What do you think is a better power adder and why?
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2004, 06:40:31 AM » |
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Oh Jeez- not this can of worms, lol!
They are all great, it just depedns on what you are trying to achieve with your car by using a power adder! That's my 1 cent answer!
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2004, 09:33:34 AM » |
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I liked my supercharger.... but if given the opportunity- I'd go turbo  |
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2004, 01:15:00 AM » |
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I’m hooked on the bottle… Less wear on the drive train during summertime daily driving.  Turn a dial, flip a switch, and all hell breaks loose!  |
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2004, 01:16:24 PM » |
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Overall I vote for the supercharger for many reasons: Supercharger: Pros - Cheaper than a turbo; Easier to install than a turbo; Most kits are well developed; Easy to tune with; It never runs out vs. a bottle; It sounds cool. Cons - More expensive than Nitrous in the beginning; More constant stress than nitrous or a turbo; takes horsepower to make horsepower; Not as powerful all around as a turbo. Nitrous Oxide: Pros - Less constant wear and tear on motor; Cheaper in the beginning; Easier to install than a blower or turbo; The button is just fun; Fairly easy to tune with. Cons - Not as much top end as a turbo or blower; costs $$ to fill the bottle; Not as predictable as a blower. Turbo: Pros - The best all-around power by far; boost levels can be changed from inside the passenger compartment; sounds better than a blower; it never runs out; doesn't take horsepower to make it. Cons - Extremely expensive; Kits aren't very well developed yet; Not as easy to tune with; harder to install. I am sure that I missed a few things and remember that this is only my opinion. How you weight the pros and cons is what counts. I figured that even though the turbo would be a better power adder, it still wasn't the best option for my daily driver. I had nitrous before than and got tired of filling up the bottle after I ran the numbers and figured out that after a year I could have bought a supercharger with the money that I had spent on N2O. Just my .02  |
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2004, 08:43:53 PM » |
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If resources, cash and time are not important, then turbo, obviously. If you are wanting a 'kit' and something that can be had relitively cheap and can be installed rather easily, then Supercharger (of course.) If you drive a civic, the get the bottle.  |
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2004, 12:35:38 AM » |
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Oh Jeez- not this can of worms, lol!
They are all great, it just depedns on what you are trying to achieve with your car by using a power adder! That's my 1 cent answer!
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 08:19:46 PM » |
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Overall I vote for the supercharger for many reasons: Supercharger: Pros - Cheaper than a turbo; Easier to install than a turbo; Most kits are well developed; Easy to tune with; It never runs out vs. a bottle; It sounds cool. Cons - More expensive than Nitrous in the beginning; More constant stress than nitrous or a turbo; takes horsepower to make horsepower; Not as powerful all around as a turbo. Nitrous Oxide: Pros - Less constant wear and tear on motor; Cheaper in the beginning; Easier to install than a blower or turbo; The button is just fun; Fairly easy to tune with. Cons - Not as much top end as a turbo or blower; costs $$ to fill the bottle; Not as predictable as a blower. Turbo: Pros - The best all-around power by far; boost levels can be changed from inside the passenger compartment; sounds better than a blower; it never runs out; doesn't take horsepower to make it. Cons - Extremely expensive; Kits aren't very well developed yet; Not as easy to tune with; harder to install. I am sure that I missed a few things and remember that this is only my opinion. How you weight the pros and cons is what counts. I figured that even though the turbo would be a better power adder, it still wasn't the best option for my daily driver. I had nitrous before than and got tired of filling up the bottle after I ran the numbers and figured out that after a year I could have bought a supercharger with the money that I had spent on N2O. Just my .02 Well said. |
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2004, 02:40:24 PM » |
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If money grew on trees it would be turbo all the way.
Superchargers are plenty of fun for half the price.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2005, 05:29:14 AM » |
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How about just using two of the three power adders.....Nothing wrong with a little 75shot on a turbo setup....  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2005, 09:18:26 AM » |
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If I had the money, I would go turbo, imho, it's more efficient.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2005, 09:54:56 AM » |
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How about just using two of the three power adders.....Nothing wrong with a little 75shot on a turbo setup.... If I can ever get enough money together for a shortblock I will have a s/c with a 50 shot |
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2005, 10:10:21 AM » |
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I don't understand the "DUEL" power adder thing... maybe it's because all I ever see it on is riced out cars.. fill me in on the benifits of this please.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2005, 02:06:55 PM » |
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Turbine Why are Cubes not listed....   |
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2005, 12:35:55 AM » |
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Thats a tough pick...........I'll take all three if it can be tuned........ turbos dumping into a blower 5k hit the juice  ok im awake now.... If I can only have one...money dosent matter Ill take the twin turbos...... wait I just blew that motor up Quote Gravel....why are cubes not listed? thats what I want this time around..........oh ya with a lot of juice |
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2005, 09:53:50 AM » |
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Quote Gravel....why are cubes not listed? thats what I want this time around..........oh ya with a lot of juice  I am not sure yet if I am gonna let mine have a sippy cup or not... But it will be a N/A 427, should be a fun driver....  |
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2005, 11:04:09 AM » |
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........well......if you engine NEEDS a power adder.......why did you build it that way?   Ok, now I need a "stirring the pot" smiley. Steve |
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2005, 04:26:55 PM » |
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In my personal opinion Turbos are miles better. with all the new tech. boost lag is pretty much nonexistent (gale banks said this so i trust it) The turbo makes more power to boost lb then a supercharger. for example the kenne bell supercharger(twin screw) made 700's (something of that nature do this off the top of my head) while the same engine with the same amount of boost the tt kit from hp proformance made over 800 hp. This test was done in MM&FF on a 4.6 03 corba engine. To my knowlage the reason why ppl use N2O with turbos is to help them spool faster out of the hole (very large turbos) I got a really bad headache and not thinking right so if any of this is wrong then plz correct me.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2005, 02:57:16 PM » |
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I've personally ran all 3 and I keep going back to the nitrous. My 14-1 compression 402 runs pretty good when I slap another 400 horsepower worth of nitous to it . |
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2005, 05:45:00 PM » |
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I have a turbo on one car and a Vortech s-trim on the other.Its turbo all the way.No stress on the motor when your foot's not in it, makes huge torque, and todays kits are well engineered as well as competitively priced.And with the new boost controls from companies such as RJC lag is a thing of the past.Also the price of blower kits has gone way up.I did like my juice but got tired of filling bottles.  |
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2005, 10:18:25 PM » |
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A supercharger sounds great, but I cant afford the $2400 price tag. I was able to afford the $375 price tag of the N2O much easier. And for the bang for the buck, the nitrous is the way to go. The way I figure it, the darn motor is going to go up in smoke within 5-10 yrs with a supercharger due to the constant strain of constant boost. Thats if you can keep head gaskets in it. With the Turbo, sheesh...talk about cost! I'll tell ya, I had a 12 second car, spent $375 and got into the 11's...changed the motor out, and went 11's on the motor, opened the bottle, and went 10's. Whats the problem? Yeah, the Nitrous has to be refilled, but at around $30 a bottle, and only 1 bottle a week(IF I race that week) I think I can afford it a while.  Now, where is that dry system for my little 05 V-6?  |
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