Has anybody installed A Vortech

[pi-thon1]

I am thinking about getting a Vortech Has anybody installed one? How long did it take & on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard was it? Part #4FL218-140SQ.I now have 245.1 rwhp what do you think I will end up with?

[Brian 00GT]

I installed mine on my 2000 GT.  It wasn't bad, but you do need a small air grinder to do some trimming on the bracket.  The instructions detail this.  I think that it took us a full day, but we weren't in a big hurry.  You will also need a huge ass tap for your oil pan...I forgot what size.  I would rate the installation a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most difficult.  You can probably count on about 75 rwhp from it.

[pi-thon1]

Did your system have an after cooler?I thought that system added about 200 hp?
                                                                                                               Jeff

[Dan]

An aftercooler/intercooler isn't always going to give you better performance. My friend lost 2#'s using an intercooler.

[quake101]

An aftercooler/intercooler isn't always going to give you better performance. My friend lost 2#'s using an intercooler.

Huh? How does that work? Cooler air = better....right?

[Dan]

Ask Brian. I am clueless as to why, but I know he did.

[doogz]

An aftercooler/intercooler isn't always going to give you better performance. My friend lost 2#'s using an intercooler.

Huh? How does that work? Cooler air = better....right?

Cooler air = better, but you're going to lose some pressure due to an extra part being introduced in the system. You lose some efficiency, but gain cooler intake temps.

[speedfreak87]

An aftercooler/intercooler isn't always going to give you better performance. My friend lost 2#'s using an intercooler.

Huh? How does that work? Cooler air = better....right?

Cooler air = better, but you're going to lose some pressure due to an extra part being introduced in the system. You lose some efficiency, but gain cooler intake temps.

Yep!

The instalation of any vortech product is easy.. as long as you know your way around the engine bay.. I've helped my buddy on a few of them and each time went in no problems..

[pi-thon1]

In looking at vortechs web site and the system I am looking at takes a stock vehicle to 402 hp at the fly will that as a net gain of 142 hp and if I'm doing the math right taking the hp I have now 245.1 + 17% for fly wheel hp that gives me 286.7 plus the 142hp from the supercharger puts me at 428.7hp at the flywheel -17% to the rear wheels should be 355.8 or close to that.  Does that sound correct or am I  going about it the wrong way.  Jeff

[speedfreak87]

you might be there, have to take into consideration, exhaust upgrade, tune, gears, all the fun stuff.. can't just throw it on a bone stock motor and expect numbers..

[Brian 00GT]

you might be there, have to take into consideration, exhaust upgrade, tune, gears, all the fun stuff.. can't just throw it on a bone stock motor and expect numbers..

Bingo.  And Doogz is right about the intercooler.  BTW, I am about to get rid of my intercooler for methanol injection.  It is more effective, cheaper, and more consistent.  You may want to look into that before you send Vortech $1500 for their aftercooler.  The aftercooler is great for track cars where you can add ice every run, but on the street it doesn't take long to put that water at pretty high temps, which kinda begins to defeat the purpose.  Intercoolers are better than aftercoolers, imo, but still have there drawbacks.  One major one is that at a certain point the intercooler will become a bottleneck for airflow.  Another is that you have this huge ass intercooler under the hood.  All in all, methanol just seems easier and cleaner...and it only costs $400.

[pi-thon1]

Thanks for all the input and the knowledge that you guys bring to the table or should I say the screen.  A let you know what I decide to do.  Thanks Jeff

[95 Sleeper]

you might be there, have to take into consideration, exhaust upgrade, tune, gears, all the fun stuff.. can't just throw it on a bone stock motor and expect numbers..

Bingo.  And Doogz is right about the intercooler.  BTW, I am about to get rid of my intercooler for methanol injection.  It is more effective, cheaper, and more consistent.  You may want to look into that before you send Vortech $1500 for their aftercooler.  The aftercooler is great for track cars where you can add ice every run, but on the street it doesn't take long to put that water at pretty high temps, which kinda begins to defeat the purpose.  Intercoolers are better than aftercoolers, imo, but still have there drawbacks.  One major one is that at a certain point the intercooler will become a bottleneck for airflow.  Another is that you have this huge ass intercooler under the hood.  All in all, methanol just seems easier and cleaner...and it only costs $400.

IMO aftercoolers are better since it cools the charge after the supercharger. With an intercooler the air will heat up after going through the blower......When are you going to sell your intercooler?

[speedfreak87]

you might be there, have to take into consideration, exhaust upgrade, tune, gears, all the fun stuff.. can't just throw it on a bone stock motor and expect numbers..

Bingo.  And Doogz is right about the intercooler.  BTW, I am about to get rid of my intercooler for methanol injection.  It is more effective, cheaper, and more consistent.  You may want to look into that before you send Vortech $1500 for their aftercooler.  The aftercooler is great for track cars where you can add ice every run, but on the street it doesn't take long to put that water at pretty high temps, which kinda begins to defeat the purpose.  Intercoolers are better than aftercoolers, imo, but still have there drawbacks.  One major one is that at a certain point the intercooler will become a bottleneck for airflow.  Another is that you have this huge ass intercooler under the hood.  All in all, methanol just seems easier and cleaner...and it only costs $400.

IMO aftercoolers are better since it cools the charge after the supercharger. With an intercooler the air will heat up after going through the blower......When are you going to sell your intercooler?

I agree.. the after cooler is the better way to go.

[95 Sleeper]

Just another example the methanol acts as an AFTERCOOLER

[sinister88lx]

Intercooler and aftercooler is the same thing. Just the names are different. The term intercooler was used many years ago when diesel trucks used a blower and a turbo. The "intercooler" was placed in between them cooling the charge coming out of the turbo before it went into the blower. The correct term today would be aftercooler since it cools the charge air after compression and before the motor gets it. By either name the function is the same. Methanol is chemical aftercooling as well as an otcane boost. I now run pure Methanol in my GN with 23psi and 20degs timing and no knock. At $400 for the kit and $3 a gallon for Methanol it is a cheap way to go fast, not to mention easier to fit the kit in the car. A company called Cooling Mist has a kit that mounts in the trunk to save space. Might be worth checking out.