Any experiences going from Power Adder back to N/A?

[J. D.]

I've got this low compression blower motor, a Kieth Craft 306.  Thinking about putting on a Performer RPM II for a little while.....see how it feels without the forced induction.

Any experiences about what I can expect?  It has about 8.5:1 compression, pretty low.  Just hoping for a driver that is a little less a pain in the ass than this Blower setup has been.  Better gas mileage.  Not out to set any land speed records, but I imagine it will still be pretty peppy.  Some friends think I'll be close to where I am now power-wise, given the fact my current setup still has flaws and prioduced lower numbers than I was expecting.

I've got AFR-165's (61 cc)
Dished pistons/H-beam rods
Comp Cams XE274HR (Here are the specs)
I have a Pro-M calibrated for 30's, and as set of 30's I can throw on there.
Long-tubes
I expect to need another tune.

Thoughts?

[blown1989saleen]

prolly be a little lazy until you lay into it and get the RPMs up, that intake would kick ass with the blower setup

[EVIL5LITER]

Won't be too bad, dude.  What numbers were you throwing up with the Kaboom setup?

[J. D.]

prolly be a little lazy until you lay into it and get the RPMs up, that intake would kick ass with the blower setup

I know I'll be losing the low-end torque I had, getting rid of this Kenne Bell.  Had tons of torque.  Squirrelly in three gears, no problem, even with the problems I had.  So yeah, I chose this RPM II as a "possible", for maybe a cheaper blow-thru combo later on.  My Pro-M is the ATI version.  It's designed for blow-thru applications. 

Ya know, this thing hauled ass on the highway, without any boost, so I'm thinking I'm on the right track with this intake.  It likes the air, and the revs. 

Just looking to get back to the basics and enjoy driving this thing once again on a daily basis, without the hassles.        

[J. D.]

Won't be too bad, dude.  What numbers were you throwing up with the Kaboom setup?

Roughly 322/360.  Not good at all.  KB says they see 400 with this blower.  I can't see how.  They have told me that my motor is asking for more air than this 1500 KB with stock manifolds can dish out.  That is was designed for a basically stock motor.  I've since gotten a GT-40 lower, but haven't had any luck with KB as far as upgrading my blower manifolds to those of the GT-40.  There's at least an easy 40 hp right there.  They gave me a quote for the work, but that is as far as I've gotten.  Basically, I'm having the same problem Blown 89 is having, and I want out before it gets too bad.  They simply don't answer any of my emails, or phone calls.   Easy money for them, and they are f***ing it all up.   

[hrtatack1]

dozer

pm me teh specs


im here


peter

[J. D.]

dozer

pm me teh specs


im here


peter

I'll shoot you a PM tomorrow.  I can't begin to tell you how much I'll apreciate your help.    Thanks!   

[EVIL5LITER]

Won't be too bad, dude.  What numbers were you throwing up with the Kaboom setup?

Roughly 322/360.  Not good at all.  KB says they see 400 with this blower.  I can't see how.  They have told me that my motor is asking for more air than this 1500 KB with stock manifolds can dish out.  That is was designed for a basically stock motor.  I've since gotten a GT-40 lower, but haven't had any luck with KB as far as upgrading my blower manifolds to those of the GT-40.  There's at least an easy 40 hp right there.  They gave me a quote for the work, but that is as far as I've gotten.  Basically, I'm having the same problem Blown 89 is having, and I want out before it gets too bad.  They simply don't answer any of my emails, or phone calls.   Easy money for them, and they are f***ing it all up.   

John,
It's not your fault.  You bought into the KB hype.  Simple fact is that they do not make good power without intercooling and the bigger blowers. 

I can get you a great deal on your next blower setup.  I'm a wholesale distributor for Vortech, Paxton, Procharger, and KB.  I'd recommend a Novi 1000.  Great little blower for the money. 

[J. D.]

I can get you a great deal on your next blower setup.  I'm a wholesale distributor for Vortech, Paxton, Procharger, and KB.  I'd recommend a Novi 1000.  Great little blower for the money. 

Thanks!  I'll keep that in mind.  Seriously. 

But right now, I'm more into establishing a rock solid base-line normally aspirated with the stuff that I've got.........then maybe going from there.

[doogz]

Won't be too bad, dude.  What numbers were you throwing up with the Kaboom setup?

Roughly 322/360.  Not good at all.  KB says they see 400 with this blower.  I can't see how.  They have told me that my motor is asking for more air than this 1500 KB with stock manifolds can dish out.  That is was designed for a basically stock motor.  I've since gotten a GT-40 lower, but haven't had any luck with KB as far as upgrading my blower manifolds to those of the GT-40.  There's at least an easy 40 hp right there.  They gave me a quote for the work, but that is as far as I've gotten.  Basically, I'm having the same problem Blown 89 is having, and I want out before it gets too bad.  They simply don't answer any of my emails, or phone calls.   Easy money for them, and they are f***ing it all up.   

That does seem low. My buddy's H/C/I 5.0 put down 320 at the back tires on a Mustang dyno. Trick Flow twisted wedge heads, TF stg 2 cam, and i'm not sure what intake.

[94 GTR]

John,
It's not your fault.  You bought into the KB hype.  Simple fact is that they do not make good power without intercooling and the bigger blowers. 

I can get you a great deal on your next blower setup.  I'm a wholesale distributor for Vortech, Paxton, Procharger, and KB.  I'd recommend a Novi 1000.  Great little blower for the money. 

KB's don't put down the peak numbers like a vortech but make up for it in the low rpm's were they make more than the vortech's and other blowers. I ran 11.8@116 with only 9psi. with my Kenne Bell

[Blown 89]

It'll probably feel better because you're not putting up the numbers you should with that KB John.