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« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2005, 06:08:20 PM »

looks factory to me. thats awsome
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« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2005, 07:01:39 PM »

looks awesome

are there subframe connectors on it???
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« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2005, 07:37:48 PM »

Can't wait to see the finished project Grin
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« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2005, 06:40:48 AM »

looks awesome

are there subframe connectors on it???
Hi B,

Thanks for the kind words.

Actually, we have two 1' x 6" structural tube rocker panel reinforcements that do more to stiffen the overall structure than sub-frame connectors ever could.

They are "hidden" between the 03 inner rocker panels and the 65 outer panels. At the front of the chassis, they tie into 1" square tube that surround the entire cowl and firewall areas. At the rear of the chassis, they tie into the "C" pillar areas, the rear torque boxes and the main structural cross member that runs across the width of the car just behind the driver’s seat.

All of these added "structural members" are hidden inside the structure of the car. Your comment is exactly the type of response we were hoping for. All of the planning and effort we have spent on this car have been in an attempt to make the chassis appear "stock". If experienced hobbyists like you do not see all the added reinforcements, we have achieved our goal.

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« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2005, 06:48:28 AM »

Damn I love that car (and it's not even together).  It mght just be my favorite all time car ARLEADY  Shocked
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« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2005, 01:30:01 PM »

Hi All.

Today has been a tough one.  I started sanding the engine bay this morning.  Wayne said that I had to do the entire bay inside and out.  About 1/2 hour ago, I finished, at least I thought I was finished.  Now I have to go over everything I just sanded with a scotch bright pad.

My hands were cramping up about an hour ago.  Now I have about another 2 hours of scotch bright buffing in front of me.

Will it ever end???  :-)

Oh...  And this is just the engine bay.  Tomorrow I get to start on the underside of the chassis.  I can hardly wait.

Catch you all later.

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« Reply #66 on: April 05, 2005, 05:45:10 PM »

im more impressed every day with this project. you guys are wasting no time. i like that.

keep the progress pictures coming
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« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2005, 01:24:02 PM »

Hi All,

Today, I sanded and scoured the bottom of the chassis.  I also welded in the final wheel well trim pieces. As well as a few other details.

Woo Hoo  :-)





Next we prime all the Bondo.  Sand some more.  Prime it again, etc...  until we are ready to apply the final coat of primer.  Just before applying the final primer coat, we will caulk all the seams, fill all the cavities with expandable foam and undercoat the wheel wells.  After the final coat of primer we can then apply color to the chassis and engine bay.

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« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2005, 01:31:44 PM »

Just an FYI on the expandable foam.  My experience has been that it isn't a good idea.  We used it on something similar, not a car mind you, but something along those lines and it didn't work well.  I don't care how well  you caulk stuff and paint, eventually water can get in and the foam holds it and promotes rust.  Not that this thing will probably ever see bad weather and what not.  Just some food for thought. Also it is not dense enough to offer any sound deadening to speak of so I'd just skip it.

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« Reply #69 on: April 07, 2005, 06:07:10 AM »

Just an FYI on the expandable foam.  My experience has been that it isn't a good idea.  We used it on something similar, not a car mind you, but something along those lines and it didn't work well.  I don't care how well  you caulk stuff and paint, eventually water can get in and the foam holds it and promotes rust.  Not that this thing will probably ever see bad weather and what not.  Just some food for thought. Also it is not dense enough to offer any sound deadening to speak of so I'd just skip it.

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Hi CW,

I appreciate the input, but we are attempting to duplicate all the factory build techniques, so expandable foam is required for that reason alone.

The areas where we will be applying the expandable foam are the same areas filled at the factory.  Also, all the materials we are using are the OEM recommended materials.  The foam is a water resistant, closed cell neoprene.  Most would refer to this material as water proof, but I say water resistant because in reality, nothing is "water proof", just different levels of permeability.

I am confident in both the material we are using and the manner in which we apply it.  I will be posting photos showing the areas where this material is applied.

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« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2005, 05:15:26 AM »

Hi All,

Yesterday we started sealing all the interior seams with the urethane seam sealer/adhesive.  It is a lord product called "Fusor #800".  It is fast curing and permanently flexible.  I sealed all the lap joint seams and also some of the interior stitch welds.  The material is applied with a standard caulk gun.  We then go over the caulk with an acid brush to smooth it out and work it into the tight nooks and crannies. 



You will probably notice that I did not do the neatest job.  I was more concerned with coverage than I was with appearance.  We will do a much neater job when we caulk the exposed areas of the chassis and engine bay.

We also primed the engine bay and the areas of the chassis we detailed.  Looks quite a bit different from the early "fit up" stage of the shock towers, doesn’t it?





Well... It's time to get back to work.

Catch you all later.

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« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2005, 05:23:00 AM »

I saw a company at the Ford Swap Meet ( Columbus Oh) this past weekend, that was marketing an IRS rearend and Mod motor into the early cars. After seeing your pictures, I was not impressed at all. They had used coil overs in the rear instead of factory location springs. Probaly wouldn't have been that bad, but they left the lower spring pockets open without doing anything to them. Just one of the things I saw.

You're doing an awesome job, keep up the great work.
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« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2005, 02:29:14 PM »

Hi All,

Here is a little note to let you all know that I am going away for a little vacation.  My wife Teri and I are going on a Mexican Riviera cruise for our 25th anniversary.  We leave tomorrow and return the 16th, so...  you will not be hearing from me for a while. 

Wayne may look in every so often and make a comment or two, but he is going to be real busy the next week getting the chassis painted.

Talk to you all when we return on the 16th.

So for now, hola seniors and senioritis.

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« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2005, 04:02:22 PM »

bon voyage


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« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2005, 08:34:31 AM »

Hi All,

I am back from vacation.  I had a great time, but now it is time to get back to work.  I will be posting some updated photos ASAP (we have the chassis and engine bay painted).  Also, we will be posting the results of the design competition by the end of the week.

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« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2005, 11:58:53 AM »

Hi All,

Here are some quick picks for ya.





I am having a real hectic day, so this will have to do until tomorrow.

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« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2005, 06:45:25 AM »

Hi All,

I would like to thank all who sent in an entry to the design contest. There were many fine ideas, all of which would look great on this car. I now have enough ideas to last me through the next 15 to 20 project cars. :-)

Every single entry made the decision VERY difficult. As a small token of my appreciation, I am going to send off a memento of the project to all who entered. You should be receiving an e-mail requesting your mailing address in the next week or so. Please e-mail me if you do not receive notice by the 22nd of April.

With that said, the design we chose was turned in by a J Trudeau (a high school junior). The drawing is kind of rough, but you get the idea. Also, the wheels shown are 19" not 17" and look a bit to large for my taste. I think the over sized rim fad is going to fad out over the next year or two. Time will tell if I am right or wrong on this one.



He said he has been following the project ever since X-Mass break. He said he worked up the design NOT as he envisioned the car (He thought his tastes would be a bit to “wild” for my liking). Instead he worked up the design as if I were his client and used all the forum comments as a guide.

As you already know, the car will be 05 Ford Screaming Yellow and the graphics will be gloss black. The hood will be blacked out between the body lines that "line up" with the edge of the grill opening. The "black" will stop at the back of the hood and not continue onto the cowl panel. The grill and the brushed trim pieces will also be blacked out.

Also, the winner wished that "Man o' War" the greatest Thoroughbred of the 20th Century --and the millennium be painted (in phantom) on the flat area at the top of the drivers door. He also wants a plaque describing Man o’ Wars accomplishments mounted in the trunk.

Man o' War's time records included:

New World Record, Dwyer Stakes, 1 1/8 miles
New World Record, Belmont Stakes, 1 3/8 miles
New World Record, Lawrence Realization, 1 5/8 miles
New American Record, Jockey Club Stakes, 1 1/2 miles
New American Record, Withers Stakes, 1 mile
New Track Record, Kenilworth Park Gold Cup, 1 1/4 miles
New Track Record, Potomac Handicap, 1 1/16 miles
Equaled Track Record, Travers Stakes, 1 1/4 miles

On nearly a dozen occasions, the interior fractions of his races were completed in times that would have broken American and/or world records.

His records stood the test of time. His 1-1/2 mile American record stood for 17 years.

He didn't just take a tick off time records, he obliterated them. Up against Triple Crown winner Sir Barton, Man o' War took more than SIX full seconds off the track record for 1 1/4 miles at Kenilworth Park.

He won easily over tracks labeled fast, good and sloppy.

He won at distances from five furlongs to 1-5/8 miles.

He won on straight courses and on both clockwise and counter-clockwise courses.

He carried and won with 130 pounds five times as a TWO-year old.

At three, he won with 131 pounds in the Miller Stakes, 135 pounds in the Stuyvesant and 138 pounds in the Potomac.

He gave extreme weight concessions to the competition. In one race, the second high weight carried 32 pounds less.

At three, he consistently gave major weight concessions to, and beat, older horses.

He retired as the greatest money-winning Thoroughbred ever.

Writing in the 1947 volume of "American Race Horses," another legendary racing writer and historian, Joe Palmer, said of Big Red:

"He did not beat, he merely annihilated. He did not run to world records, he galloped to them. He was so far superior to his contemporaries that, except for one race against John P. Grier, they could not extend him. In 1920 he dominated racing as perhaps no athlete -- not Tilden or Jones or Dempsey or Louis or Nurmi or Thorpe or any human athlete -- had dominated his sport."

I love all his ideas. What do you think?

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« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2005, 07:00:32 AM »

That was some interesting reading.  I think it sounds like a great idea.
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« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2005, 04:23:50 PM »

In my very humble opinion, the side stripe looks disproportionate and out of place.
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« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2005, 05:51:37 PM »

In my very humble opinion, the side stripe looks disproportionate and out of place.


ditto

satin black hockey puck style like a boss 302


but thats just my opinion


not enough stripe....make a statement

i also agree on the smaller wheels...more tire. 19s are a little much


the rest of that car is beyond incredible....complete it with class
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« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2005, 06:19:26 PM »

I agree with the previous two comments made here. 
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« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2005, 05:29:10 AM »

Hi All,

And so it begins....  :-)





Working our way through this rat's nest is going to take some time, but nothing we can't handle.  I should have the harness installed by the end of the day.

Also, we are picking up some of the parts from the powder coater today.  I am looking forward to assembling the front and rear end of the beast.

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« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2005, 08:03:02 AM »

Hi All,

Geezzzz....

I am going to have to rethink the graphic, etc... I have been getting a VERY strong response via e-mail saying that ANY graphic would be a mistake. In the past, I have received e-mail with comments on the project before, but these e-mails are bordering on the "scary" side. For example...

"Any graphics on this car would be a big, big mistake. I would tattoo my 1 year old daughter with gang symbols and sell her into a life of prostitution before I would defame, what has up to now, been one of the most incredible Mustang projects I have ever seen. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it.

OBTW, just in case I did not mention it before. DONT DO IT."

I know that the sender was just kidding about his daughter and all, but maybe, to be on the safe side, I should consider changing my name and moving to another state. :-)

The gist of all the e-mail is...
Just paint the car and let it stand on its own merit. The CAR is the statement and any graphic at all will detract, not add to, the overall appearance of the car.

Confounded in Chicago...

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« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2005, 09:42:11 AM »

I'm curious... why didn't you paint the interior of the car before beginning re-assembly?
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« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2005, 10:20:43 AM »

I didnt realize you were having a design contest with this until recently and it was too late to design something...  and it sounds like after the last few emails, you might reopen the submissions.  If so, I'd like to try and work something up.  BUT -  ALWAYS remember this is YOUR car, and you're building it for YOU, and not everyone else, so if you liked his graphics, dont be afraid to use them...  besides, they'll just be vinyls right?  You can just peel them off if you dont like them.
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« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2005, 06:02:18 AM »

Hi All,

I would have posted these photos earlier, but yesterday, my computer took a dump.  :-(

We received the powder coated suspension components and had to send them back.  There was some confusion over the color we wanted and the coater color-matched the wrong components.  We should have those items back by Monday.  :-(

In the mean time, I have been plugging along, assembling the items in the engine bay while Wayne has been working on mounting the rear wheel flares. 









We are going to have to modify the wiring harness, in a couple of places, in order to reach some of the components.  Relocating the shock towers 7" forward has altered the way the harness fits, but fortunate for us, we only have to change things like the length of the lead going to the WW pump, etc...

As far as the mechanical systems, we are going to have to come up with a way to support the intercooler radiator and re-route the front break lines.  Other than that, everything has been bolting right up.

Please speak up if you see something that does not look quite right.  There is so much going on right now that I am afraid I might make a mistake in assembly.  It is easier to correct these things now than to wait until it is done and have to fix them then.  Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2005, 08:12:38 AM »

I say again, how come you didn't paint the interior sheetmetal before beginning reassembly of the interior firewall harness and insulation?
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« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2005, 08:20:20 AM »

I say again, how come you didn't paint the interior sheetmetal before beginning reassembly of the interior firewall harness and insulation?
Hi C,

Sorry I did not respond sooner.

Yes the interior is being left in "primer". But, this is not your normal primer. It is a self etching epoxy that is harder and more protective than any topcoat. We could have spent a week preping the surface for color, but the color would not give us any additional protection and afterall, it is going to be hidden.

If this coating was not so durrable (and hidden from view) we would be painting it the body color.

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« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2005, 08:25:54 AM »

I didnt realize you were hav