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Hi All, I just read about this site, in the current MM&FF, and thought I would check it out. My friends and I are building a mustang project car that we call the SN65. Have you heard of our little project? If so, what is your opinion, good bad or otherwise? SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 05:56:22 AM » |
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Odd, I can't find any info about the car on your site. Care to provide real pics and info?
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 06:02:55 AM » |
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Odd, I can't find any info about the car on your site. Care to provide real pics and info?
Hi CM, Well... I guess you are right about that one. Maybe we will set up a page on the site when the project is finished. Until then, if you want the full history, follow the link below http://eleanor.pro3i.com/showthread.php?t=513328&page=1&pp=25SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2005, 06:18:12 AM » |
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now that is an excellent idea
please post progress
btw...nice to meet you
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F*** that, more is better...excess is best...rock the f*** on Just stop typing. Please. For the love of God. Cry me a river. Then build a bridge and get over it.  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2005, 06:38:12 AM » |
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Hats off to you man, that is an awesome project and I almost never use that word. Welcome aboard, stay a while.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 09:12:13 AM » |
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Have you heard of our little project? If so, what is your opinion, good bad or otherwise?
I have seen the thread on corner carvers and think it is a great project. I am excited to see what it looks like when it is finished. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 09:15:08 AM » |
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I believe I saw that in Hot Rod. Very neat project.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 09:52:38 AM » |
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Wow! That's a great project you have there, awesome work so far.  Make sure you keep us updated!! btw: Welcome to the site!  |
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 10:55:11 AM » |
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That is a sweet project!  Keep us updated and welcome to BAM  |
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 12:19:46 PM » |
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 Awseome project! Welcome to the site. (I couldn't help but laugh that my account is still active over there. I can't remember the last time I visited that place.  )
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 01:14:01 PM » |
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Me too, rich. I post more in a week here than i've ever posted over there!
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 08:02:41 AM » |
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Hi All, Damn!!!! I hate it when "real work" interferes with this project. All we had to do this weekend was finish welding in the cowl and the trim pieces around the passenger and driver side windows. That’s all. Maybe about 10 man-hours.... Well... The two bodymen (and my brother) who were supposed to help this weekend couldn't because they had to work on customer cars. I hate it when actual paying customers get top priority. Also, I did not get much accomplished because I had to help another paying customer with his 66 coup restoration. I spent all day yesterday fitting and welding the cowl. That along with reviewing the corporate tax returns of 2 companies took up my entire day. I did not finish all I needed to before media blasting. The blaster called yesterday to schedule the pick up (they were scheduled to blast the car today) and I had to reschedule because I was not ready. !@$_(*&!!!! Now they will not be able to get to it before the end of the week if I am lucky. Most likely they will be by next Monday to pick it up for blasting on Tuesday. I am so depressed. :-( Anyway... Here is a photo of the finished cowl area. Note the open areas around the hood hinge brackets. These areas will be covered by a small plate.  Now I have to get to work. HydroFlo is having project review meetings today and I need to attend. Another day shot to hell due to real work interfering with this project. When will the madness end? Catch you all later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 08:32:05 AM » |
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I don't know if you were considering it, but alot of the big name car builders have started taking thier stuff to these spray on bedliner places to have the bottom sides coated. the theory is that in addition to stellar sound deadening and rust resistance, it also makes the bottom of the car alot easier to detail on the future. Just put it on a lift and steam clean it, and you're done.
For a car of that caliber, I just though it might be something to think about.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 09:57:09 AM » |
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I don't know if you were considering it, but alot of the big name car builders have started taking thier stuff to these spray on bedliner places to have the bottom sides coated. the theory is that in addition to stellar sound deadening and rust resistance, it also makes the bottom of the car alot easier to detail on the future. Just put it on a lift and steam clean it, and you're done.
For a car of that caliber, I just though it might be something to think about.
Hi CM, I am only using "factory" available technology for this car. The chassis will be detailed as if it were actually produced by Ford. It will be painted and caulked and undercoated in the same manner as a production vehical. By fabbing the intermediate panels and detailing the chassis in this maner, we hope to blur the edge between 65 and 03. When complete, I hope people view this car and are hard pressed to find where 65 stops and 03 begins. Catch you later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2005, 10:08:23 AM » |
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Holy s***, that's gonna be sweet when done. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2005, 11:11:54 AM » |
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I've been reading his thread http://eleanor.pro3i.com/showthread.php?t=513328&page=1&pp=25Wow, talk about some serious fabrication work and attention to detail. |
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2005, 12:54:40 PM » |
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Thats insane I love it please keep us posted on the progress maybe mm&ff will do something on it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2005, 06:14:52 AM » |
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Hi All, Well, I have a few days to kill before the media blaster can fit me into his schedule. They are currently blasting and coating Garbage trucks, cement mixing trucks and construction trucks as well as misc. heavy metal fabrications. The coating systems they use are a bit different than those used on a typical production vehicle. They use a number of different self priming high build epoxy. All surfaces are blasted to an SSPC-SP10 near white metal blast and then coated with 12 to 16 mills of self priming epoxy. The coating is VERY durable and has high chemical resistance. If the surface is prepped properly and the coating applied properly, the system is suitable for indefinite submersion in wastewater with a pH of 2.5 to 13 (normal is 7). Anyway... Until I get the car back from media blasting we are going to be working on brackets, misc. detail work, etc.... That is when the real fun begins. :-) Catch you all later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2005, 03:36:38 PM » |
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awsome car. cant wait to see it done
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 05:10:09 PM » |
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awsome car. cant wait to see it done
Same here...I'm already drooling over it.. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2005, 05:12:02 PM » |
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I want lotsa pics of everything on this car lol it looks like a sweet project
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2005, 08:48:44 AM » |
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awsome car. cant wait to see it done
Same here...I'm already drooling over it.. I want lotsa pics of everything on this car lol it looks like a sweet project
Hi Z, Q, 87, Thanks for the kind words. If anyone "can't wait to see it done" it is me. To all of you, the process seems to be moving along pretty fast. To me the process seems excruciatingly slow. I will continue to update the project as we go along. I will also post more photos as soon as there is something different to see. The assembly will require many more photos to properly document. Catch you all later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2005, 09:02:06 AM » |
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Of course it seems slow to you, you're doing all the work! |
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2005, 10:05:16 AM » |
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awesome project
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2005, 12:03:29 PM » |
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Hi All, Entries for the graphics contest are rolling in. You only have 14 days left. A lot of good ideas are coming in. I am looking forward to seeing yours. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2005, 02:18:00 PM » |
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Hi All, I just realized that I did not show you any of the pictures of the finished cowl areas (the areas under the fenders). I am pretty happy with the way they came out. There was a lot of custom forming and fabrication to get the different years to fit together. It seems a shame to cover all this up with the fenders. :-) Also, you can see the WW setup. The system had better last a while because it is now hermetically sealed. So without further adieu.....   Catch you all later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2005, 06:09:44 AM » |
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Hi All, This weekend, we installed the Apten aux cooling kit for the blown 4.7. And while the kit looks like it will perform as advertised (improve cooling on the #7 & #8 cylinders) there are a couple of items that could stand a bit of improvement. When installed, the kit adds another path for the hot water trapped at the back of the driver’s side cylinder head. The kit is comprised of a length of hose, 4 hose clamps, a PVC barbed "T" fitting, a set of instructions and the fitting (the same Ford item located at the back of the passenger side cylinder head) which connects the drivers side head to the passenger side head (see the photo).  Before I get into the specific areas of improvement, I just though I would state the following. I was told by Apten that this kit could be installed while the engine was in the car, but the trans would have to be removed. I guess it could be done, but I would not want to fight with the installation of this kit while the engine was in the car. If you doubt me on this one, just look at your engine and imagine attempting to remove the freeze plug at the back of the driver’s side head while the engine is in the car. It can be done, but I imagine it would be quite an ordeal. Also, the aluminum heads are quite soft and nicking the inner race while removing the plug is a real possibility. As far as the actual kit, the first area of improvement would be the assembly instructions. They are very "sparse" giving you the minimum amount of info necessary to complete the job. For example, the molded fitting you have to cut for the insertion of the barbed “T” has a small flow restrictor crimped inside. There is no mention of this item in the instructions and we just disposed of it when we made our cuts. This is just one minor item, but the instructions leave a lot of room for interpretation in many areas. I know that most who will attempt the installation of this kit will have the skills to install it, even if no instructions were included. After all, who reads the instructions anyway? The second area of improvement would be replacing the PVC barbed "T" fitting with one more suitable for the job. THIS IS BY FAR MY GREATEST CONCERN WITH THE KIT. Schedule 80 PVC is only recommended for service up to 140 degrees F and the engine will reach temps of at least 180 or more. This does not mean that the fitting will fail at 140 degrees, but its life expectancy will be greatly reduced. The material will soften over time and suffer from stress fractures, etc... Also, a single barb instead of the multiple barb fitting supplied will be less prone to leaking in this type of application. We replaced the PVC fitting (about $1.00) with a 316 SS fitting. There were other options. CPVC is good up to 180 (about $2.00). PVDF is good above 200 (about $12.00). Aluminum is available (about $18.00). But we went the indestructible route with the 316SS at $27.00. The 316SS is a bit pricy, but we thought it was money well spent. Especially when considering what you would have to go through if you ever needed to replace this item. The third area of improvement is in the "Ford" fitting supplied with the kit. It is designed for the passenger side of the car. While it is true that you could install the item just as described in the kit, we made two minor modifications that just seemed to make sense to us. We drilled a hole in the fitting to allow the re-installation of a bracket and also to positively seat the fitting and keep it from possibly working its way free in the future. We then ground off some of the unnecessary area of the tab just because it looked like a more professional installation. Also, you are going to have to make a modification to your EGR connection. The SS line runs right over the new fitting and is also extremely close to the rubber hose connected at the top. The instructions state to "bend" this line for clearance. We have not "bent" ours yet, because there is a lot of debate as to the best way to do this. I will be posting photos when we complete this section of the installation. If you make these (or similar) modifications, I am sure you will be happy with the installation. While I think that a company like Apten would supply a more thoroughly engineered product. The peace of mind I now have knowing that I have improved one of my engines problem areas is priceless. Catch you all later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2005, 01:02:17 PM » |
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That's pretty sorry to use something like that in the first place.
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2005, 04:40:28 AM » |
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That's pretty sorry to use something like that in the first place.
Hi CW, When I see companies do stupid $h!^ like this, I am really hesitant to trust them with any more of my business. Even though they may do an incredible job on other products, stupid mistakes like this tarnish what may be an otherwise sparkling reputation. Catch you later. SN65 Come see this WIP at Julian's Collision Center http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/ |
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