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Danica Patrick criticizes new IRL weight rule - editorial: as she should, on to the article and new IRL rule. By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY An Indy Racing League rule change has Danica Patrick feeling as if she'll be penalized for being petite — which the popular driver said wouldn't happen in other sports. Starting this season, the minimum weight for IRL cars will include the driver, and Patrick is the series' lightest at 100 pounds according to the 2007 media guide (which lists other female drivers Milka Duno and Sarah Fisher at 120 pounds apiece; Ed Carpenter is the heaviest at 165).
"If someone's going to take the hit it's going to be me," Patrick said Thursday. "It's disappointing the league decided to do that. In so many other sports, athletes don't get penalized for being too strong, or too tall or too fast.
"(It's) just your God-given stature is being penalized. What am I going to do, though? It's not my decision. That's the people higher up (who) made their bed, and they've got to lay in it."
Patrick said she asked IRL officials about the reason for the change but said "they didn't really have one."
"I just follow the rules," she said. "Maybe I'll get more specific reasons somewhere down the line …"
IRL spokesman John Griffin said the rule was intended to reduce the difference between the lightest and heaviest drivers, which is a gap that can range from 75 to 100 pounds.
"We want to make absolutely clear this is not a Danica rule," Griffin said. "You look at guys like Dan Wheldon and Marco Andretti, and they're light guys."
Griffin wouldn't disclose the cars' minimum weight but said drivers are broken into three weight classifications. The heaviest would have weight reduced from its car while the lightest would have a maximum 35 pounds of ballast added.
"It's something that had been looked at and was in the back of our minds every year," Griffin said.
Patrick admits to having had a slight speed edge from weighing less in a sport where lighter means faster. An Associated Press story in 2005 reported rival teams estimated Patrick might gain nearly 1 mph because of her weight, and Sprint Cup driver Robby Gordon said he wouldn't race Patrick in the IRL until the series equalized weights as NASCAR's premier circuit does.
Patrick hopes to put the issue behind her by winning the season-opening Gainsco 300 at Homestead Miami Speedway on Saturday.
"Let's just do that," she said with a laugh, "and then I'll say, 'Why didn't you guys do this years ago?' "
Gracious offer:
David Reutimann would give up running for a Nationwide Series championship — and a larger share of each race's purse — if the result was more money and exposure for the series' teams without Sprint Cup ties.
"The only way to truly help is to give them more money so they can hire engineers and pay for wind tunnel time," Reutimann said during a Nationwide test at Richmond International Raceway.
Reutimann, who is running both the Cup and Nationwide circuits for the second consecutive season for Michael Waltrip Racing, believes NASCAR should redistribute its prize money to Nationwide-only teams and perhaps limit Cup drivers from earning points.
"If that takes me out of a seat and gives someone else an opportunity, maybe that's not a bad thing because I needed an opportunity one time," he said. "My first race was here in Richmond with one car, one motor and barely enough money for a set of tires." Jason Keller, the career Nationwide leader in starts (428), has "mixed emotions" about points restrictions.
"The series needs Cup flavor," he said. "But David hit the nail on the head … We do need more money." I know who I'll be rooting for in that race. She should pass out tampons while she's there.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 07:32:11 PM » |
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I think my leg left weighs more than 100lbs.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 07:34:52 PM » |
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She's tiny - I think 5' tall.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 07:44:59 PM » |
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Her weight advantage is why she's been on a tear winning all those races.........oh wait. What is wrong with having a driver/car combination weigh a certain amount. If memory serves nascar has been doing it for several years, I think since Jimmy Spencer had the 10 pound gloves. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 07:54:30 PM » |
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Who cares about Nascrap? We're talking about turning left and right.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 07:58:12 PM » |
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Who cares about Nascrap? We're talking about turning left and right.
Your missing the point dear, it is supposed to be about the car and the driver's skillz, not some narrow ass who is 50 pounds or more lighter then the competition. Why do you think they got weight limits in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 07:58:38 PM » |
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Stupid rules. They should be able to make the cars as fast and as light as possible....and drivers too.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 08:00:36 PM » |
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Danica Patrick is a pinhead and she will never make it as a professional race car driver. Just like the many before her. Is there a woman out there that can race professionally? Hell yes. Just not sure when we will see this her. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 08:03:46 PM » |
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If applying makeup while driving was part of racing, Id know alot of girls whod make it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 08:05:25 PM » |
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I see them practicing up here alot.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 08:13:44 PM » |
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Making the car a minimum weight isn't the issue. How old is the league and they're just not putting this in place? I'm not a Danica devotee by any means, but...and I won't even make any of you hand they keys over to your own cars and watch me drive circles, left and right, around you.  /tells Gravel to GTFO of my thread
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 08:15:20 PM » |
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You sure do have a big head. i hope you have been drinking. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 08:16:30 PM » |
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Making the car a minimum weight isn't the issue. How old is the league and they're just not putting this in place? I'm not a Danica devotee by any means, but...and I won't even make any of you hand they keys over to your own cars and watch me drive circles, left and right, around you.  /tells Gravel to GTFO of my thread So they're slow in catching on, probably that foreign influence, neckcar did it years ago. As for the driving comment I've told you before sister, don't sing it, bring it. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 08:16:45 PM » |
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Not yet. Thanks for the reminder to get mah beer out the freezer.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 08:22:00 PM » |
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So I am just curious, what makes you think you are so fast?
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 08:35:41 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2008, 10:37:55 PM » |
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Danica Patrick is a pinhead and she will never make it as a professional race car driver. Just like the many before her. Is there a woman out there that can race professionally? Hell yes. Just not sure when we will see this her.  
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2008, 06:46:01 AM » |
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Making the car a minimum weight isn't the issue. How old is the league and they're just not putting this in place? I'm not a Danica devotee by any means, but...and I won't even make any of you hand they keys over to your own cars and watch me drive circles, left and right, around you.  /tells Gravel to GTFO of my thread So they're slow in catching on, probably that foreign influence, neckcar did it years ago. As for the driving comment I've told you before sister, don't sing it, bring it.  Gimme yo keys. Blackie, I do well for myself and if I can't choke your chain here, I'll send you home to your wife so she can get the job done for me.  That and all the boys I've driven faster than in a fox cart - prior to the suspension mods and on street tires around corners. I'm not saying I'm a Danica  I'm just saying a don't need no steekin' light to tell me when to move my stick coughdavidcough.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2008, 07:01:13 AM » |
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Danica Patrick criticizes new IRL weight rule - editorial: as she should, on to the article and new IRL rule.
Making the car a minimum weight isn't the issue. How old is the league and they're just not putting this in place? 
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2008, 07:11:31 AM » |
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I'm just saying a don't need no steekin' light to tell me when to move my stick coughdavidcough.
You should know how notorious foxes are for the tach being off. I datalogged mine to be off by I think it was 800 RPM or more near 6K. With a shiftlight I can get more repeatability on the shifts for improved/consistent times at the track. I pulled .93 G with my old tires, so it isn't a standard go fast in a straight line car. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2008, 07:56:07 AM » |
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Drag racin's for fast cars, corner carvin's for fast drivers.  NUTTSGT: IRL spokesman John Griffin said the rule was intended to reduce the difference between the lightest and heaviest drivers, which is a gap that can range from 75 to 100 pounds. Nothing to do with the car. It's like asking the 6'8" basketball player to give up 6" so 6'2" players can remain competitive.
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2008, 08:08:33 AM » |
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Her weight advantage is why she's been on a tear winning all those races.........oh wait.
The thread should have ended here. Clearly it hasn't been an advantage so why change the rules?
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2008, 12:18:02 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2008, 07:05:28 PM » |
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Nothing to do with the car. It's like asking the 6'8" basketball player to give up 6" so 6'2" players can remain competitive.
That is such a lame analogy. In order to be competitive the field needs to be leveled so that the skills of the driver and the build of the car can be showcased. Safety rules put a minimum weight limit on the cars so that there no short cuts in build strength that would sacrifice safety. If all car and driver packages started the race with the same weight then those who have the best cars and best skills will come out on top. This could be seen as an advantage to the lighter driver also as the mechanics can move the weight they have to ad whereever they want to. Ashley Force is actually doing better then Danica is. Angelle Selig or Sampei I believe has won championships as well, so I don't think it's an issue of girls not being able to do it, if anything they've had a harder go of it, so to speak. How many minority drivers are in the top tier of high caliber motorsports?? Is that to say a kneegro can't wield a racecar?
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2008, 08:50:22 PM » |
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So do we need to make the taller bball player thinner?  And Cam snowboards, so color ain't got nuthin to do with anything.
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2008, 09:05:50 PM » |
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So is indycar back in one piece again?
If so hopefully they can gain some ground after the mass exodus to Nascar and F1.
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2008, 06:27:50 AM » |
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So is indycar back in one piece again? I think they did finally get their feces in one sock for this year.
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2008, 07:33:31 AM » |
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I can see David's post if I preview my post, but it's not there as I type this. We'll see what happens when I hit the post button.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2008, 08:03:46 AM » |
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We'll see what happens when I hit the post button. The usual, carnage. 
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2008, 11:22:43 AM » |
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