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« on: February 28, 2005, 07:09:05 AM » |
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Ok, Now that I got my cam installed and everything setup how I need it, I need to put the timing cover back on. Now here is my question. Do I reuse the rubber gasket on the oil pan, it looks like it would be a PITA to reuse it. If I don't reuse it what should I use to make sure it seals good? I read on THIS Write Up you use cork tabs that come in your gasket kit. I didn't buy just a timing cover gasket kit, so I don't have these cork tabs. I was thinking about trying to make my own?  |
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2005, 07:17:50 AM » |
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DO NOT USE THE CORK! it will leak.. I use black RTV sealant..
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 07:33:38 AM » |
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So I only need black RTV on it? Do I cut off the rubber gasket?
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 07:42:59 AM » |
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this is the part where it seals to the oild pan correct?
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2005, 08:02:37 AM » |
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Yes
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2005, 08:26:27 AM » |
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ok.. I've used a big ass gob of black rtv and never had any problems.. you can use the rubber gasket again, just put some rtv on the pan, and on the timing cover.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2005, 09:53:25 AM » |
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Would it be better to just cut it off? I think it's going to be hard to get it lined up again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 10:29:00 AM » |
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you can try it, just put goop on the pan and that will hold the gasket.. if you can't get it to work, cut it and just put a significant amount of goop on it..
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2005, 06:33:29 AM » |
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Would it be better to just cut it off? I think it's going to be hard to get it lined up again.
It is a HUGE pain in the a$$. I did it but I think I would cut it off and got Ultrablack RTV the next time. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 06:42:56 PM » |
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Ok, I'll just us the black RTV to seal it. I got anther stupid question. Do I use the black RTV for the front main seal also?
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2005, 06:54:35 PM » |
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what do you mean? instead of the seal it self? no..
you can put a little around it to help seal it to the timing cover, but you usually don't have to.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2005, 06:59:15 PM » |
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what do you mean? instead of the seal it self? no..
you can put a little around it to help seal it to the timing cover, but you usually don't have to.
No no, what I'm saying it, do i use the black RTV on both sides of the front seal? Or does the steal need nothing? |
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2005, 05:24:28 AM » |
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like I siad, you can use a little bit between the seal and the cover, but it's not needed.
if that doesn't help, take a picture of what you're talking about, because I think I'm getting a little confused about your EXACT question.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2005, 08:01:38 AM » |
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This is the front seal that I'm talking about.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2005, 08:03:30 AM » |
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oh yeah. ok.. goop it.. not to heavy, but just enough to seal it a tad better.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2005, 08:39:31 AM » |
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you f***ers are insane....
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2005, 08:41:19 AM » |
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there is no way in hell i would only use RTV sealant...i bought a complete gasket set when i put my motor togehter and i used everyone that i needed...i mean, u may use the s*** and not have any problems but i know i wouldnt...i ALWAYS use both...
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2005, 08:54:44 AM » |
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sometimes the sealant is WAY better then the gaskets, especially the cork ones...
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2005, 05:59:45 PM » |
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Has anyone ever used rtv plus a silk thread for engine gaskets?
Just curious, it's an old-timer airplane engine trick.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2005, 06:28:35 PM » |
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silk thread??
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2005, 09:40:59 PM » |
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Yeah, the light plane piston engines have split crankcases. The recommended gasket for the case flange is liquid gasket sealant and one continuous string of silk thread layed into the bead. 1940's technology!  |
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2005, 07:35:04 PM » |
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oh yeah. ok.. goop it.. not to heavy, but just enough to seal it a tad better.
That's gotta be the worst info I've ever heard....You're just asking for a leak putting it there Joe. Just a little dab where the rubber meets the cork. |
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2005, 06:04:37 AM » |
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oh yeah. ok.. goop it.. not to heavy, but just enough to seal it a tad better.
That's gotta be the worst info I've ever heard....You're just asking for a leak putting it there Joe. Just a little dab where the rubber meets the cork. That is the recommended procedure I had read as well and is the way I will be doing mine. I might put the thinnest skin of RTV on the rubber gasket just to sleep a little better, but mostly depend on the rubber gasket and a dab of RTV at each end where it meets the cork. A friend of mine who works at his brother's tranny shop said to always use cork pan gaskets on the tranny. He said everything else, like composite material gaskets, seem to leak where using a cork one does not. They use it exclusively and when I was in the auto tech business all of our kits had cork gaskets too. I never had a leak with any job I did. I would imagine the same would hold true for the oil pan on the block. Steve |
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2005, 08:36:19 AM » |
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I ended up not "gooping" the rubber seal.  |
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2005, 10:04:33 AM » |
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Why wouldn't you use the one piece rubber oil pan gasket?
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2005, 11:35:20 AM » |
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Why wouldn't you use the one piece rubber oil pan gasket?
The motor is still in the car and I'm only doing a top end rebuild...  |
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2005, 04:06:27 PM » |
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I ended up not "gooping" the rubber seal. I had bought a '76 Chrysler Cordoba (used) with about a tube of RTV under each valve cover. It was comical. That's what I thought of when you said you didn't "goop" it. Steve |
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2005, 04:31:11 PM » |
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How much is a new timing cover? (not the gasket, the cover itself)
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2005, 05:15:13 PM » |
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2005, 06:08:44 AM » |
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oh yeah. ok.. goop it.. not to heavy, but just enough to seal it a tad better.
That's gotta be the worst info I've ever heard....You're just asking for a leak putting it there Joe. Just a little dab where the rubber meets the cork. it's always worked for me... a VERY light skim of RTV just to help seal it better.. haven't ran into problems yet.  |
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