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« on: December 14, 2004, 04:38:05 PM » |
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hey i"ve been looking at harmonic balancers and fluid dampers cuz mine is shot. I want to put a cam and sum heads and maybe an intake if i can get sum good deals. Gareth  lol So fluid dampers are probably the way to go but is it really worth the extra $$ for me. The less i can spend the better, and also how do i find out what weight i will need. Any help would be appreciated Thanks |
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2004, 04:46:31 PM » |
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If you are working on a newer five liter ('80 and up)it is a 50oz balance. The old 289/302's were 28 oz balance.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2004, 04:53:14 PM » |
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LOL I got all out of breath reading that!!! I believe you need the 50oz damper. (actually a 34 or so oz  ) Fluidamper is big bucks--- And some say detrimental to the life of your engine :/ Check out Romac and Pioneer elastomer dampers. I'll ask Dean next time I stop by his shop, to see what kind of deals there are right now. There are Huge threads in the Corral tech boards on this subject.... |
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2004, 04:57:19 PM » |
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sweet thanks gareth thatd help alot. i might as well go a little better than stock if i end up tossing a cam and stuff in there who knows maybe ill never end up selling my stang lol
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2004, 05:01:39 PM » |
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Romac makes a really good balancer. Fluidamper, IMO, is kind of a waste of your money. Unless you're going to be making like 9 bajillion trillion horsepower, something in the middle of the market will work perfectly fine. Just look at this way...anything is better than stock.  Nasty ass rusty POS. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2004, 05:04:37 PM » |
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9 bajillion trillion horsepower wow thatd be nice lol
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2004, 05:04:57 PM » |
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If you are working on a newer five liter ('80 and up)it is a 50oz balance. The old 289/302's were 28 oz balance.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2004, 05:06:19 PM » |
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its for my 87
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2004, 05:07:38 PM » |
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50 oz.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2004, 05:07:54 PM » |
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not your 92? haha. sorry joe, i love you! (in a completely heterosexual way)
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2004, 05:15:42 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2004, 05:17:26 PM » |
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wow this thread suddenly has a different feel lol j/k
I found a pioneer balancer on summit for 115$ the summit brand harmonic is 270$and then theres TCI torsoinal vibration absorber for 375$
what is the huge difference between these
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2004, 06:05:55 PM » |
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Wow, that is cheaper than a stock replacement....<off to search MMFF aticle>
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2004, 06:17:25 PM » |
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wow that sounds like a sweet deal have u heard of anything bad about em yet or is it all good so far that would be a big possibilty for me
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2004, 06:24:52 PM » |
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"Hooligan Harmony We keep our engine together with a Professional Products PowerForce damper in part four of our Hooligan Hot Rod project." It starts on page 147.  |
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2004, 06:45:56 PM » |
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Powerbond or Romac. 50 oz Stay away from any thing that says fluid. |
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2004, 08:23:06 AM » |
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The 1968 engine I am building of course uses a 28 oz. balancer. I am replacing the original with a quality aftermarket stock replacement one (about $70). In my case I happen to be replacing the pistons, rods, and crank so everything is being balanced as perfectly as possible already by my speed shop. The block has also been align honed.
I don't know if a newer engine can be balanced in such a way as to use a 28 oz. balancer or not? I would think if the assembly can all be balanced (all pistons the same weight, rods machined to same weight, and crank balanced with flex plate and a 28 oz balancer) then it would be possible to get away with a 28 ouncer. Perhaps the construction of the components don't make this possible? Does anyone know about this? Certainly the less weight that you are slinging around the better it would be for the engine.
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2004, 07:13:45 PM » |
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I don't know if a newer engine can be balanced in such a way as to use a 28 oz. balancer or not? I would think if the assembly can all be balanced (all pistons the same weight, rods machined to same weight, and crank balanced with flex plate and a 28 oz balancer) then it would be possible to get away with a 28 ouncer. Perhaps the construction of the components don't make this possible? Does anyone know about this? Certainly the less weight that you are slinging around the better it would be for the engine.
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Well the crank and rods are the same, the only difference would be in the Flywheel. You would have to change the flywheel and Balancer. I have yet to find a 28oz Flywheel with a 10.5" clutch pattern, other than an SFI approved big money unit. |
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