302 from a 69 falcon

[79turbostang]

im sure this is a newbe question but can sombody tell me the diferance in the 302 from a 69 falcon and a modern 302 from a 89-93 mustang im asking because i would like to swap the carb setup for efi from a 89-93

[hrtatack1]

not sure what you mean


efi on the old engine

or carb on the newer engine?

[79turbostang]

i maen i want to put the efi on the 69 302 im wondering what diferance is with heads and block if any basicly will efi bolt up to 69 long block

[hrtatack1]

you need late model heads

[quake101]

I also think the 69 would be a non-roller block.

[hyper 289]

Turbo, I've done this one myself to a '65 Mustang. I'm not positive about needing newer heads, as I did put Edelbrock Performer RPM's on mine as I did it, but all of the EFI stuff just bolts on. The block is different as to it not accepting a roller cam though. There are retrofit kits to get past that problem.

[MurPHy]

Turbo, I've done this one myself to a '65 Mustang. I'm not positive about needing newer heads, as I did put Edelbrock Performer RPM's on mine as I did it, but all of the EFI stuff just bolts on. The block is different as to it not accepting a roller cam though. There are retrofit kits to get past that problem.

Bingo. The stock C9 heads probably are fine, don't expect much power out of them though. They really haven't changed the 302 all that much over the years, just added technology. The basic nuts and bolts are the same.

If it is an original mechanical-lifter block, I don't think you can convert it to hydraulic, block's not drilled for the oil galleries. If it's a hydraulic flat-tappet block, you can indeed convert it to roller hydraulic.

[79turbostang]

wow thanks for all the info i have another option on the table now that might be hard to pass a totally reman 351w with only 7000 miles on it its in a mid 70s couger and runs perfectly the guy is a freind of mine and oly wants 600 for the complete running motor i really want efi but this might be to good to pass

[hrtatack1]

put the 351 in

no doubt

[MurPHy]

351 + EFI, just get a truck lower intake from any 351W F-150 from the late '80s to mid '90s.

[79turbostang]

what uper intake would i use

[79turbostang]

and will a t5 from a mustang boult up to 351 i also plan on supercharging the car im very new to mustangs and fords for that matter

[79turbostang]

 this is the set up want the motor has hyd lifters in it now and 7000 miles from the macine shop will the 351 block i mentioned previously be ok for what i want
                                                                                                                                                               
 351W Sportsman two-bolt iron block
* 360 hp and 350 lb-ft of torque (750-cfm carb and headers)
* 9.0:1 compression
* 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 firing order (5.0 H.O. style)
* GT-40 aluminum heads, 1.94/1.54-inch valves
* M-6250-E303 hydraulic-roller camshaft (282 degrees advertised duration, 220 degrees duration at 0.050-inch tappet lift), 0.498-inch lift with 1.60 roller rockers and a 110-degree lobe separation
* Aluminum dual-plane intake manifold
* Shipping weight: 545 pounds

[MurPHy]

Stock Mustang upper fits to the 351W lower, and I think the Edelbrock Performer fits too. Heck, you could just buy the Edelbrock kit, upper and lower, and save yourself some hassle.

A T-5 would certainly fit, 351W has the smallblock bellhousing, same as 221, 260 289, 302, and 351C. Be warned that it isn't particuarly strong, if you throw too much power at it it will eat itself up.



Now, you listed what appears to be a Ford crate engine, right? Is that combination of parts what you want?

[Freakingstang]

Stock Mustang upper fits to the 351W lower, and I think the Edelbrock Performer fits too. Heck, you could just buy the Edelbrock kit, upper and lower, and save yourself some hassle.

A T-5 would certainly fit, 351W has the smallblock bellhousing, same as 221, 260 289, 302, and 351C. Be warned that it isn't particuarly strong, if you throw too much power at it it will eat itself up.
 

The stock truck lower is no where near the same as a stock H.O. motor.  It's people like you that don't know a damn thing except the internet that pisses me off.  Go spend some time in a salvage yard tearing things apart before you give someone else advice or information.

[BetterDays]

Stock Mustang upper fits to the 351W lower, and I think the Edelbrock Performer fits too. Heck, you could just buy the Edelbrock kit, upper and lower, and save yourself some hassle.

A T-5 would certainly fit, 351W has the smallblock bellhousing, same as 221, 260 289, 302, and 351C. Be warned that it isn't particuarly strong, if you throw too much power at it it will eat itself up.
 

The stock truck lower is no where near the same as a stock H.O. motor. It's people like you that don't know a damn thing except the internet that pisses me off. Go spend some time in a salvage yard tearing things apart before you give someone else advice or information.

Bravo Steve, Bravo!

[79turbostang]

well now that i have know idea who or what is right ill start from scratch. I have at my disposal a 351 from a mid 70's couger that was completely machined and rebuilt 7000 miles ago,it is odviously a carb setup. I would like to swap it to efi. I will be putting this motor into a 79 fox that originaly had a 2.3turbo. I will also somday be putting a supercharger, cam and other goodies on the motor. What i dont know is what ill need for this project im aware that ill need swap headers i have souced mac for those and a difernt oil pan and pickup tube i belive cannton makes a kit as far as the efi i dont know what intake manifold i will need or what upper intake i will need what wireing harness and computer i have built a few imports done with the rice thing the ford is a completely new venture and i would rather ask people in the know then spend countless hours trying this and that not to mention the expense. If you have performed these mods i will gratefully heed the advice given. If you have heard from someone who knows sobodys freind that his brother did the mods plase dont respond get your freinds freinds brother to respond thank you in advance fro the advice.

[MurPHy]

Stock Mustang upper fits to the 351W lower, and I think the Edelbrock Performer fits too. Heck, you could just buy the Edelbrock kit, upper and lower, and save yourself some hassle.

A T-5 would certainly fit, 351W has the smallblock bellhousing, same as 221, 260 289, 302, and 351C. Be warned that it isn't particuarly strong, if you throw too much power at it it will eat itself up.
 

The stock truck lower is no where near the same as a stock H.O. motor.  It's people like you that don't know a damn thing except the internet that pisses me off.  Go spend some time in a salvage yard tearing things apart before you give someone else advice or information.

The hell are you talking about?

[quake101]

well now that i have know idea who or what is right ill start from scratch. I have at my disposal a 351 from a mid 70's couger that was completely machined and rebuilt 7000 miles ago,it is odviously a carb setup. I would like to swap it to efi. I will be putting this motor into a 79 fox that originaly had a 2.3turbo. I will also somday be putting a supercharger, cam and other goodies on the motor. What i dont know is what ill need for this project im aware that ill need swap headers i have souced mac for those and a difernt oil pan and pickup tube i belive cannton makes a kit as far as the efi i dont know what intake manifold i will need or what upper intake i will need what wireing harness and computer i have built a few imports done with the rice thing the ford is a completely new venture and i would rather ask people in the know then spend countless hours trying this and that not to mention the expense. If you have performed these mods i will gratefully heed the advice given. If you have heard from someone who knows sobodys freind that his brother did the mods plase dont respond get your freinds freinds brother to respond thank you in advance fro the advice.

If you plan on going EFI on the motor. You can find a gt40 lower for a 351. With that lower you can use a cobra, expolorer, or gt40 upper intake. I belive you have to change the oil pan and find headers that will fit a fox. I don't know if the mounts from the 2.3 motor will match up with the 351.